How to Change Careers | Adam Baillio, PharmD

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[00:00:12] Mike Koelzer, Host: Hello, Adam. Hello there. Thanks for joining us. 

[00:00:18] Adam Baillio, PharmD: It's my 

[00:00:18] Mike Koelzer, Host: pleasure. Yeah, we, uh, I know that in the little talk we had just before we started here, you're actually at your place of, well, we'll call it your place of business right now, even though you're a student, you're at the 

[00:00:30] Adam Baillio, PharmD: hospital, right? Uh, so this is my second app rotation.

Um, I'm here. Real early in the morning. And, uh, so that way I can have time to do my day, my day job, uh, in the evening, your day 

[00:00:47] Mike Koelzer, Host: job in the evening. 

[00:00:49] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Yeah. So I work for CIR Dule full time, so I'm putting 40 hours a week there. And then I go to the hospital and I put in 40 hours a week here. 

[00:00:59] Mike Koelzer, Host: Whoa, big, big schedule.

[00:01:03] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot. 

[00:01:05] Mike Koelzer, Host: That's a ton. Is it, um, is it varied enough that if someone told you you had to put 80 hours in, at the hospital there or 80 hours at the CTE sole, would that be, would, would, would either of those work or is it okay to have that balance or is it better? I should say to have the balance of 

[00:01:25] Adam Baillio, PharmD: the two, uh, I'd say it's better.

Uh, just because they're, they're so different from each other. Uh, so often that. You know, I don't necessarily get tired of doing one thing or the other on any given day. Right, 

[00:01:42] Mike Koelzer, Host: right. Are you going seven days a 

[00:01:44] Adam Baillio, PharmD: weak on that? Oh yeah. I don't get a day off. No day off. 

[00:01:49] Mike Koelzer, Host: Well, that's, that's quite a load. I know you got, I know you got some kids too, right?

[00:01:53] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Right. I have five kids. You have 

[00:01:55] Mike Koelzer, Host: five kids. I only have 10 oldest. I only have 10, so you're almost there. 

[00:02:00] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Yeah. We're halfway. Yeah. Yeah. Oldest is, uh, 12 years old and the youngest is four months old. Hey, 

[00:02:07] Mike Koelzer, Host: congratulations. Thanks. Wait way to go. All right. So Adam, tell us how you got into this excitement of this 80 hour life with five kids.

Um, for, for any of the, uh, the listeners that don't know, you just take us back a bit, get us up, get us caught up to who you are and, and where you are. 

[00:02:31] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Well, um, I have, uh, an undergraduate degree in theater, uh, from Brigham Young university. And, uh, I started my career by coming down to Vegas from there. And, uh, I worked at the MGM arena, um, just as an on-call Staten.

Um, and I've worked my way into CIR du delay because it's, uh, at the time it was one of the big companies where, uh, people who were in theater could actually have. Can actually settle down, have a family, things like that. Um, a lot of people that I've met along the way, they've had to go on tour or do cruise ships or, um, you know, piece together.

So many other side jobs that, uh, they really don't have time for family. And, uh, so that's one of the problems that, uh, that I had faced in, uh, transitioning to where I am. Um, that's what I was trying to solve by doing all this. Um, even though I'm, uh, currently with CIR Dule I've had a lot of, uh, interesting highlights in my theater career.

Um, I was in, uh, a Transformers movie, and, uh, I've worked as a magician's assistant for a show here on the strip. I've even been, uh, a gondolier at the Venetia Oh, is that right? So yeah. Yeah. Say no, it's Italian pretend I'm Italian 

[00:04:00] Mike Koelzer, Host: oh yeah, I got, I gotta stop you for a second. On the, uh, on the Transformers I had, I had seen that in your profile or on your IMDB M M M um, I think my kids are watching that, is that one of the, um, was there, was there a couple and then a couple more or something like that, 

[00:04:15] Adam Baillio, PharmD: or, right.

So, so they did, um, three movies, a trilogy with Shiloh Lebeau And which one are you in? I'm the first one with oh, the first 

[00:04:25] Mike Koelzer, Host: one with Mark Walberg. Cause Mark Wahlberg my kids are watching that now. All right. So I've gotta watch for you in that. So what, what, uh, will I see you 

[00:04:31] Adam Baillio, PharmD: in, 

[00:04:32] Mike Koelzer, Host: in that? 

[00:04:32] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Yeah, you'll definitely see me.

I'm about eight and a half minutes in. Okay. Um, Kelsey Grammer's character, he's the antagonist. Um, and he's upset that people are stealing robot parts and then it jumps to me all over the big screen. Uh, my character's name is Timothy and he's selling a giant robot part. 

[00:04:52] Mike Koelzer, Host: okay. I'll, I'll watch for that because they were just talking last night and, and my kids were talking.

And in fact, we were just talking about this last night with, uh, uh, Shiloh and then mark, Wahlburg your name? Didn't come up, but I'm sure if we talked a little longer, your name would've come up in the conversation, but it will today. Certainly 

[00:05:09] Adam Baillio, PharmD: for sure. 

[00:05:10] Mike Koelzer, Host: For sure. Yeah. So, so the, so the Vegas jobs. Any kind of a Vegas job type of thing would keep you in a city longer than going around different areas.

[00:05:20] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Absolutely. But, um, so CIRC du soleil has kind of established itself and I mean, some of their shows have run for 20 years or more. And, uh, so it was, it was attractive at the time, but. There's always, uh, the chance that that show's gonna be dropped, that they're gonna be right. You know, put something else in the theater.

The hotel is, uh, dissatisfied with how the show is going. I mean, like right now I'm on Michael Jackson. I've been here for four years. Um, but with the recent controversy over Michael Jackson, uh, right. We weren't sure if we were gonna have a show, uh, but we seemed to be doing okay. And. So, but again, there's that, uh, there's always that inconsistency.

There's always the chance that, uh, the show could be dropped and I'm out of a job. Yeah. Right, 

[00:06:12] Mike Koelzer, Host: right. Um, alright, so, so that brings, so that brings you, um, to thinking about a more stable career. How does pharmacy come about then? 

[00:06:25] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Well, um, I'm a man of faith. I know you are too. I was, uh, thinking about, you know, different, uh, career moves.

And I looked into my family history and, uh, I felt really impressed to, uh, look at what my ancestors did. Um, my grandfather and his father before him were both pharmacists. Uh, they owned a little pharmacy and a little town called Victoria, Texas. And, uh, I felt strongly impressed to follow in their footsteps.

And, uh, and that if I did that, um, I would actually have their help, uh, kind of on the other side. Yeah. Um, to get me through. And I've certainly felt that through this, uh, transition. 

[00:07:13] Mike Koelzer, Host: Oh, that's great. I probably did that too, but then I end up finding out that my dad and my grandpa flunked a lot of classes.

[00:07:22] Adam Baillio, PharmD: yeah. Maybe you don't need their help through class. 

[00:07:25] Mike Koelzer, Host: oh, that's great. All right. So what, so, so you're, you're doing that and H boy, and, and you've got then a few kids probably by that time. 

[00:07:37] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Uh, yeah. Uh, we had three kids by the time I, that, uh, my wife and I decided we should make this transition. Wow. 

[00:07:47] Mike Koelzer, Host: That's quite a, that's quite a, um, it's quite a jump because it's time, but it's also, you, you know, that you're gonna need the mental time for that.

[00:07:57] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Absolutely. It's, it's, uh, been a sacrifice for sure. Um, I. I'm a family man. I mean, that's one of the reasons that I got in with C so I could, you know, have a family. Um, yeah. But, uh, it's uh, like I said, we, I felt that kind of strength and help support, um, from the other side of the, uh, you know, from my ancestors and yeah.

And my, my community, I mean, my church has been very supportive. My family's been supportive even though, uh, none of them live here in Vegas. Um, I have felt their strength and, and their prayers, so, 

[00:08:41] Mike Koelzer, Host: yeah. Yeah. Um, okay. So how long then had you, how long had you been out of school? Before your, um, before you're plopped in a chair at pharmacy school, what's the distance between those two timelines?

[00:08:59] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Right? Uh, I graduated, um, my undergraduate degree in 2005 and, uh, gee, so, so 12, 12 years or 10, 12 years. Yeah, it's been, it's been 12 years now, but let's see. I'm three years old. So nine and I also had two, I had to go back to school, uh, to get some undergraduate credits because, you know, I don't need a lot of chemistry and biology for a theater degree.

Yeah. Right. So, uh, so it's been five years. Um, yeah. On this particular track. So five years 

[00:09:37] Mike Koelzer, Host: on that. Yeah, I was, um, when I was in pre-pharmacy for a couple years, and then I went down to the seminary for a year and then I studied theology for about a half a year. And, um, On the one hand, I got some really great time to do some writing and reading and different things like that, but it sure was a difference between those two different kinds of classes.

And that's like yours. Yours is probably a combo that, um, That people don't see too often. Now, in your theater, you, if I'm reading that correctly, you do certainly have a technological scientific mind because you're doing, you're doing some of that in, in the show stage. Aren't you, as far as the background stuff 

[00:10:20] Adam Baillio, PharmD: in that?

Absolutely. So, uh, I have done some acting, but most of my theater career has been backstage. Um, I've been a spotlight operator, um, a Light Board operator. And I'm currently doing L E D lights that are in the costumes for Michael Jackson one. Um, oh really? Yeah. So I've, I've done my fair share of soldering, um, yeah.

Programming, things like that. You have to be very, uh, computer savvy to get, uh, some of this work done. Yeah, I 

[00:10:54] Mike Koelzer, Host: bet. All right. So then you're at, um, so then you're at school and. Um, I imagine going into that, especially, maybe even before you started, um, there's, there's some highs, some highs and lows. Um, did you ever, did you ever get to the point of too low or has it been just a steady stream of being tired?

[00:11:22] Adam Baillio, PharmD: It's been a lot tiring, a lot of low, but, um, uh, The way that our school is set up instead of having semester long classes, we have these two week blocks, right. And we test every two weeks and, uh, a lot of students at our school get in this cycle of, uh, not studying for a week and then cramming for a week.

Right. I've worked really hard to stay out of that, uh, habit because, uh, it's really hard to catch up. Um, I've had to, uh, really pace myself and do things. The way that it's supposed to be done the way it was actually set up to do where you just do a little bit every day and you just keep working at it. And, uh, yeah, it means long days and, and short nights, but, uh, um, there, there's the occasional block where, um, where we work on some of the softer skills and I've already got those down.

So those tend to be my breaks. Yeah. Right. And times to catch. Yeah, 

[00:12:26] Mike Koelzer, Host: right. Well, so the, uh, what, what attracted me to you, Adam, um, was your, although you're a student, um, you are reaching out on social in ways that students would, but, but maybe not, um, maybe not the same. I think you've got a bit more, um, You know, it seems like you've been around a bit to know that your brand is maybe more than, um, I, I guess more than, than Instagram, you know?

I mean, it's, it's more than, you know, pretty pictures of yourself. um, and I never had, I never had that option cuz I don't, I, I can't take it. I've got a face for a podcast, I guess they say, but, um, but you are, you are in the area of, and, and many are. But percentage wise, not many are, but you're in the area of, of LinkedIn and, and, and things like that.

Tell me your, um, and, and, and I guess from theater, you've seen that, but tell me, let's talk about your, your brand. Um, and, um, let's spend some time on that, your brand and, and where you, where you pick that up, where, where are you going and how it's been helping you. 

[00:13:53] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Right. So, um, I've already, I've always kind of seen, um, like where I lack, uh, compared to the other students.

Um, a lot of them have time to, uh, work in, uh, pharmacy. And so they're, they're quite familiar with a lot of the drugs already and, uh, um, they have time to do things like study. Where they can sit down and, and look at the words where I maybe don't have that time. So kind of to make up for that lack. I started listening to pharmacy podcasts, um, and there's some really great ones out there.

Uh, I can attest to, I, I currently follow probably. 10 to 12 of them right now. Um, but it started with, sorry, so God, 

[00:14:41] Mike Koelzer, Host: God forbid, you're actually talking about scientific podcasts 

[00:14:44] Adam Baillio, PharmD: though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. oh, no. Yeah. It's not, uh, what is it? Joe Rogan or whatever. Yeah. Right. Um, you're talking 

[00:14:52] Mike Koelzer, Host: that that will boost your boost, things that are going on in class, 

[00:14:55] Adam Baillio, PharmD: basically.

Yeah. Uh, in fact, I've, uh, I've listened to, uh, Mike Corvino, uh, core consult RX podcast. That's been really helpful because he really goes into the clinical aspects of drugs. He'll spend, uh, 30 minutes to an hour per episode and really start covering things that I am covering in class, but at a different time.

And it really helps to repeat and, and reiterate things that I'm learning. And it's been very helpful. That's great. Um, uh, but I'm also listening to podcasts, like talk to your pharmacist podcast and, uh, uh, RX radio. And, uh, those have really opened my eyes to like the possibilities of pharmacy and, uh, and really to get a flavor of what is happening in the world of pharmacy right now.

Um, it's been very eye opening following those podcasts because, uh, I really get the strong impression that, uh, that things are changing and that, uh, it's a good idea to, to pay attention. Uh, figure some of these things out before I graduate, because by the time I graduate, it's gonna be too late to figure things out.

Right. Um, so, uh, so Richard waits, runs the Richard Richard. Yep. Talked to him last week. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, I, uh, I actually connected with him on LinkedIn, uh, because I'd been following his podcast and, uh, one of his big, um, principles that he, uh, tries to get across to other pharmacists is to build your brand.

And, uh, how do you do that? Well, you have to get yourself out there. And I really took his advice and, uh, sort of used him as a mentor in this whole process, found areas of pharmacy that I've been passionate about, um, enough to, uh, create a lot of content. And so I started my own podcast on top of 40 hours of work, 40 hours of school.

Yeah. Um, uh, and so between, uh, Richard and Mike. They've really motivated me, pushed me and, and got me to where I am right now, where I am building content, providing, uh, you know, good material out there for, uh, perhaps other pharmacists to look at and, um, kind of establish who, who I am or who I want to be by the time I graduate.

Yeah. I like 

[00:17:32] Mike Koelzer, Host: that. Who you want to be because. None of us, you know, once in a while, you'll see someone come out and they'll be like 22 years old and they'll be the, um, God's gift to, um, a life coach or something. And you're like, no, not at 22 , but I know what you mean by that. Who you wanna be? You're you're you're you're clearing the road a little bit clear on the road.

Where, when you talk about the podcast, Obviously there, the audio is taking off a lot these days because of, uh, the ability, I guess. People have realized that you don't need your eyes when you're using your ears. And so maybe it lets more people multitask. When are you listening to, when are you listening to these podcasts on different breaks and things you don't drive a whole lot?

Do you, 

[00:18:25] Adam Baillio, PharmD: uh, I mean, I've got a 20 minute ride, uh, especially to the hospital right now and I've got a 20 minute ride to work. I see. Um, so I do, I do quite a bit of listening while I drive. Um, I also have. During my breaks. And also, um, even when I'm working, when there's, uh, just a lot of mundane physical tasks that I can, uh, just, you know, put an earbud in and, uh, listen, while I work.

Uh, in fact, we have a machine here at the hospital pharmacy called a box picker. Yeah. Um, When it's time to, uh, to load the Pyxis machines. Um, we like, I can sit at that box picker for a couple hours pulling out drugs, and man, I just pop in my earbud and I'm still aware of everything else that's going around, but I can kind of have pay attention to podcast, maybe get more, uh, clinical knowledge and, uh, you know, more repetition and, and figure out what's going on in the community of pharmacy.

And. Uh, you know, I have podcasts about hobbies as well, so 

[00:19:32] Mike Koelzer, Host: yeah. Are there plenty? Listen, are the podcasts for, um, the school of pharmacy? Um, the more medical side, uh, Well, let me, let me ask it this way. Are all of the college pharmacies, are they studying about the same thing at the same time or is one pharmacy school compared to a different one, might be studying the drugs five months apart or the chemistry five months apart?

Or does it seem to be. Um, go in stages all across all the pharmacy schools. 

[00:20:09] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Well, yeah, that's the thing, there's, there's a couple different models of pharmacy school. Um, I feel like I'm kind of unique because it's a block plan instead of, uh oh, that's right. Yes. Right. So, for me, it's pretty different.

Um, yeah. Right. I'll have two weeks of pulmonology and then I'll have two weeks of cardiology. Um, yeah. Instead of having an overarching class, it spans three months. I have two weeks. And it's just that 

[00:20:37] Mike Koelzer, Host: right. What have you found from your, um, what have you found from your podcasting so far that, um, your, your social, um, use so far that has made you some interesting connections?

I know you talked about Richard and so on. Um, I imagine there's some things that happen. When you engage yourself that you didn't necessarily think would happen. Like I know right now that I've seen a ton of students come through my eyes on social and things, but with your interaction with me over the last few weeks, it's like, golly, Adam's got something here and, and I need to talk to him.

I'm sure that you are like Richard and so on, I'm sure it's been the same pattern where, um, if, if, if you show, if you show an interest, I guess people like, like to share. 

[00:21:37] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Yeah. Um, I mean, it's been an interesting experience. Just how much, uh, things have kind of exploded. Um, having launched this podcast because as I have reached out, I have felt many people's hands.

You know, it almost chokes me up. How, how promising it feels to have people reach out like, like, uh, we ha like we have this discussion today. I have been talking to two other podcasters on Thursday this week. Um, maybe not necessarily for, uh, material for their podcast, but, um, I'm building that network.

That Richard had said is so important, uh, and that, you know, people across the profession recognize as being important. Um, it's, it's not, it's not all as easy as just attending your, um, pharmacy convention. It doesn't happen like that anymore. You have to really get out there and use, uh, the tools of social media to build that network.

And. I feel like I've connected with people already and, and things are starting to happen. Um, so that by the time I graduate, there's gonna be something there. I, I, you know, there'll be work, there'll be a job to catch me. Um, which was really kind of the impetus for all of this. Um, I have a family that relies on me being able to provide for them.

I can't afford to. I Graduated from pharmacy and then just stopped working in theater. I need to have something there. I need to have something, uh, stable and ready to go. Um, so that's really, what's driving me to, to put material out there to reach out, to, uh, to make friends, to connect with people. And it's been very rewarding so far to, uh, find other people who are, uh, willing to.

Yeah, you can't 

[00:23:35] Mike Koelzer, Host: afford to have that momentum stop. You gotta be rolling through this. Um, when, when things end and, and, um, and, and pick right back up with hopefully, hopefully some money coming in. Um, exactly. And, um, along with those connections, why do you think that, um, why do you think you have stood out so readily, um, compared to your.

Other classmates in social being that they're the, they're the generation of. Um, and when I say generation generations have gotten, you know, smaller now, but let's say even someone, you know, five, uh, 20 or 30 years younger than me and 10 years younger than yourself. Um, um, what have you found that has pushed you.

More than them. And I know one of them is just the pressure on your back to keep things rolling. Is there anything else that you think has gotten you up and going on this more than your classmates? Well, 

[00:24:45] Adam Baillio, PharmD: I I'm, I'm sure that some of it is just, uh, being a bit more mature because I am 10 years, uh, in some cases, 20 years older than my classmates.

Um, there's maturity and, and awareness. I feel like I'm living my life with my eyes open, um, which just comes with maturity, uh, with experience. Um, a lot of the students that I go to school with, I feel like they don't feel the necessity, um, for the urgency to, uh, to build their network, to, to look outside and beyond.

They just see the school that's in front of them. And to be honest, yeah. When I was doing my undergraduate, that's how I felt too. I mean, I didn't have any necessity to look beyond that graduation date until I was there. Um, so I kind of under, 

[00:25:43] Mike Koelzer, Host: yeah, I think there's a sense of a sense of catch up. Yeah. You know, basically where we are.

[00:25:47] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Yeah. Like I understand, um, there, uh, Lack of pressure. I, I guess, to, to say, and, you know, as most of them are single, um, or, you know, at the very least, uh, they're not parents yet, so right. Their responsibilities are pretty low and, and they can get through school and just focus on this one aspect. Yeah. Um, and then, you know, when they graduate, then they can focus on, uh, doing what they gotta.

Yeah, then they'll 

[00:26:21] Mike Koelzer, Host: have their time. Then I, I love what you said in another podcast, um, that I caught of you, um, saying that this is the, the new, um, Uh, social interaction. And I thought back to my years of being myself in different pharmacy groups, in town, different, uh, church groups, different, um, I guess pharmacy boards and things.

And, um, boy, this is sure, certainly for me, I know it certainly replaced years ago when I would wake up at six 30 or something. And with my dad, we'd go to some of these different meetings and. It's not the same. It's better in some aspects and worse in some aspects, but it certainly has, I think, replaced it.

If you look at a lot of the, those groups and meetings that have gone down, that seems like we used to always go to 

[00:27:15] Adam Baillio, PharmD: right. And I mean, I think it's still important to, uh, participate in those groups. Um, you know, I think we need to stick together as pharmacists with, uh, you know, a PHA. I'm going to, uh, asHP midyear in December.

Um, I do plan on, uh, doing a residency and, and I know that that meeting is an important one to go to. Um, however, I think it's important to on top of going to those meetings, um, make, make a presence out there and, uh, I mean, it's paying off, so. 

[00:27:56] Mike Koelzer, Host: That's great, you know? Yeah. Because you look at them, you look at those.

Um, the great thing I love is the synergy that goes with them, where quite often you'll go to one of those meetings and I don't go, I don't go quite as often anymore. Um, All I do is stand in the corner and eat all the, eat, all the muffins and stuff. but, uh, um, but it's great. The synergy, because you'll, you'll meet somebody that you, um, you'll meet someone that you're able to follow up with.

Forever basically, or you'll, you'll finally meet someone in person that you've had that contact with on social before, at least once or twice with some messages going back and forth. And it's, it's very, uh, satisfying to be able to spend that time and, and have that pay off when the personal visit does actually happen.

[00:28:50] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Absolutely. Um, I think that's kind of a key point. It's, uh, building those relationships before the meeting. So that, uh, when you're face to face, ed really becomes a meaningful connection. Yeah. There was 

[00:29:04] Mike Koelzer, Host: a, back in the old days when I would do more print advertising, phone book advertising and so on.

Um, I never trusted what the sales people told me, but from my own reading and the marketing books, you know, it would just say that when you are, when people see your ad. Or vice versa, they see your store and then see your ad. It's not a one time thing. It's like, okay, I've seen them again. And so now I, now I trust them more or vice versa.

I've seen them in person, you know, so I trust them more. And, and I think that's where it is. It's that level of trust. And you see people a few times and we've even asked people in the pharmacy, you'd say, how did you decide to finally come with us or to use our pharmacy? And they're like, well, I saw your, you know, I saw you on TV and it's like, well, I haven't been on TV or I haven't done that in this area.

That kind of thing. People don't really know. They just have that. They just have that trust that, somehow, somehow they know you. 

[00:30:04] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's just, it's like you said, it comes with repetition. It comes. Uh, multiple different kinds of exposure. Uh, and that's really what I'm doing. I just get myself out there and connect as often.

And as in, in as many different ways as I can. 

[00:30:21] Mike Koelzer, Host: Well, that's great. You're a, um, you're a mentor to look up to, um, for students coming. So I encourage everybody listening to hop on. Adam's Adam's uh, stuff, two questions for you, Adam, before we take off. Yeah. One. What's what keeps you up at night at this point in your life?

What's your biggest stressor? Um, and I don't want to get personal, but I mean, on a, on your, on your schedule, what's, what's your biggest thing that it's like, it's always on your 

[00:30:54] Adam Baillio, PharmD: mind, um, with everything that I've sort of set up for myself to do as far as work and school and, and now the podcast, um, I never feel like I have enough time for myself.

Like I keep saying, like, that's, that's my number one. Uh, motivation. That's the reason why I'm doing all of this and the fact that I have to sacrifice so much of that in order to, um, protect that, uh, has been difficult. Yeah. Seems like 

[00:31:29] Mike Koelzer, Host: a, like a weird, like a weird balance because you're, you're doing it for them, but, but you wonder that there's that distance sometimes.

So that's a tough one. Yeah, that's a tough one. Um, alright, so now let's go to the opposite side. Now let's all of a sudden, um, say that you are, that you have enough. You've got enough money, let's say, um, what are you doing with your time? If work, if, if money were no longer a, um, issue, um, what would you be doing like in this next couple months, would you still be doing this still be doing that?

Would you be quitting? This, what would you be doing well? 

[00:32:19] Adam Baillio, PharmD: If I, if yeah, if money weren't an issue, I would absolutely, uh, quit my job so that I could focus on, uh, school and family. Um, but I think I would stick with, uh, this path of pharmacy, I think, uh, it's an exciting time to get into pharmacy. Um, I know it's, it's, uh, a little scary right now with, uh, some of the recent layoffs that we've heard about and, um, Just the, the evolution of technology and how that's affecting pharmacy.

Um, it can be scary, but it's also an exciting time. And, uh, I see an opportunity to not only support my family, but to help other people, um, to really be a source of knowledge for. Health, um, for other people and that excites me. And that's actually one of the reasons that I do my podcast is as much as it's extra work on top of everything I'm doing, it's really the thing that's giving me life right now.

Um, it's, it gives me energy and it keeps me awake. Um, when I haven't had enough sleep, um, because I'm looking at things that, um, that could really affect people's lives and, and it's, it's stuff that. Beyond, um, the magic pill that everybody's hoping for out of Western medicine. Um, yeah. Right. So, it's exciting.

And, uh, I think I will keep going with it. Um, that's you'd stick with 

[00:33:53] Mike Koelzer, Host: yeah. Yeah. What, um, what, what words do you have for anybody listening to this right now that says, I gotta take some steps to do this, whatever position they're in. They say, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta make some moves that Adam has done. What advice would you give to that person?

Whether they're in pharmacy or not, but some kind of a business, you know, learning a business pursuit, but maybe not quite out there yet. Um, officially producing in terms of the business. 

[00:34:22] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Uh, yeah. You know, there's, there's a lot that could be said. Um, I, I never felt that I'm a particularly smart person.

I just know how to work hard. Um, so, you know, if, if you feel like you need to do something, don't look for reasons to say, no, you just figure out the yes. Um, that's what's gotten me this far. What have I done? Uh, no, isn't an option. And so I keep finding them, yes. You just keep going, keep finding things that do work.

Yeah. Um, you just figure it out, you know, figure out how to keep putting one foot in front of the other, um, keep accomplishing your goals. Yeah. And 

[00:35:10] Mike Koelzer, Host: yeah, and it seems like those things, they're not in a vacuum because they build on each other because one day you do this and the next day, well now you know how to do this and you know how to do this 

[00:35:18] Adam Baillio, PharmD: part.

Um, yeah. You know, I think, uh, understanding your, why the, the purpose your drive. Um, I think that that has helped me as well. Just, uh, figuring out what, what motivates you, what interests you? Um, what are you passionate about? Um, I've, I've been able to get, as far as I've gotten and do what I'm doing. I've really taken, not a whole lot of time, but enough time to really figure some of these things out to, to know, uh, what I'm really passionate about and how that ties into what I'm, uh, studying and, um, you know, make those connections that, uh, that are important to me.

[00:36:09] Mike Koelzer, Host: Yeah, I know that's huge because in pharmacy school, it seems like the people that were there and the people that had some years on me at the time would just like to be, would. Do so much better than I did. And I know a good handle of that. A good portion of that was a focus. They knew exactly why they're there.

They knew exactly what they're. Um, I mean, for that day they knew exactly why they were there and what their, and what their purpose was that day. 

[00:36:35] Adam Baillio, PharmD: Yeah. I think, uh, I think that's an important point. If you have focus, then you're not wasting time and energy on things that are exterior to that. No, you know, you're really focused on that, uh, uh, that one.

You're not gonna waste time on things outside of that. 

[00:36:52] Mike Koelzer, Host: Yeah. Yeah. So true. Well, Adam, pleasure to meet you. It was great to meet you too. Yeah. I wish you all the best. And I'm looking forward to following you on social and seeing what ideals ideas come up so I can 

[00:37:07] Adam Baillio, PharmD: steal 'em from that yeah. Well, that's a concept in theater.

You're, uh, only as good as the, uh, people you steal from. Feel free. Love it. 

[00:37:18] Mike Koelzer, Host: all right, God bless Adam. Thank you. You 

[00:37:19] Adam Baillio, PharmD: too. Bye-bye, talk to you again.